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Implements part of quest/m2/route-latency.md and rewrites it to the JS side that remains.

Problem

An application that wants to show the round trip between two peers through a cluster can't today without publishing a track for it. Lite-07 routes are one distance-vector route per origin node, so a route can't name its path, but it can carry a sum. The maintainer decided on 2026-11-10 that lite-07's ROUTE carries that sum as an RTT: each node adds its link's windowed minimum RTT, never QUIC's lifetime min_rtt, which never rises after a path change. The endpoint adds its own first hop.

Approach

• Wire (draft): ROUTE_START and ROUTE_UPDATE replace Down Only (8) with Flags (8): 0x1 is down-only, 0x2 means an RTT (i) in milliseconds follows, and any other bit is a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. An origin advertises 0. A receiver adds its link min RTT to every route the peer sends and advertises the sum on the route it selects. Unmeasured is the absent field, with no sentinel. ROUTE_HOLD keeps the last RTT. The RTT never ranks a route, selects one, or decides feasibility. Old Down Only bytes 0 and 1 decode unchanged, so existing ROUTE bytes stay valid.
• Link min RTT (route::LinkRtt): read the transport's smoothed RTT once a second, take the lowest of the last 30 reads in whole milliseconds rounded up, and change the reported value only past max(5 ms, 25%) of it. A read of no RTT reports none and the timer keeps reading, since qmux reports its first RTT only after its first ping; it stops after 30 reads in a row find none, so a transport that never measures costs no timer for long. Each lite-07 announce stream this node asked for runs the timer only while the peer has sent it a route, so a peer that publishes nothing costs no timer, and starts a fresh window when a route returns after a pause.
• Route layer: Advert carries rtt, each neighbor has a dynamic link rtt, and Router::rtt recomputes only the identities learned on that neighbor. That sends one ROUTE_UPDATE per route on each stream downstream of the change, and nothing when the value is unchanged. Served carries the whole-path rtt per stream, so a change re-serves the claims and updates their RouteInfo.
• Application read: origin::RouteInfo::rtt() -> Option<Duration>: the advertised sum plus this session's own link, None while either is unknown, on another wire, or on a route this origin serves itself.
• Bindings: MoqRouteInfo.rtt: Option<Duration>, so RouteInfo.rtt in Go, Kotlin, Swift, Dart, and Python. The Dart bindings are regenerated. C has no RouteInfo.

Sizing (measured before the decision)

message	today	+RTT 0-127 ms	+RTT 128-16383 ms
ROUTE_START (small ids / busy relay)	14 / 16	15 / 17	16 / 18
ROUTE_UPDATE (small ids / busy relay)	6 / 9	7 / 10	8 / 11

The simulation used bufferbloat (a sawtooth queue every ~60 s, building to 20-80 ms over 1-8 s, then dropping), RFC 9002 smoothed RTT per ACK, and the filter above. Results:

• With jitter alone, the filter sent 0 updates per link-hour. Reading every ACK sent 292, and an EWMA of 1 Hz reads sent 37.
• One real +25 ms shift sent exactly one ROUTE_UPDATE per origin on each stream downstream of the link: R for the first link of an R-relay chain, 1 for the last, measured at 1.0 to 1.4 per relay for R = 1 to 8.
• A standing queue shorter than 30 s sent nothing.

The simulation script is at the end.

Impact

• Wire (moq-lite-07-wip, unpublished): ROUTE_START and ROUTE_UPDATE carry Flags (8) and an optional RTT (i). Bytes without the 0x2 flag are unchanged. A peer that still treats the byte as a 0/1 boolean refuses a route that sets 0x2. That includes the JS route codec in moq-dev/moq#8443, which must accept the flag before it lands.
• moq-net (additive): origin::RouteInfo::rtt().
• moq-ffi (breaking for code that builds a MoqRouteInfo record): new field MoqRouteInfo.rtt. Generated record constructors gain a parameter. Readers need no change. To migrate, pass rtt wherever a test or fake constructs a RouteInfo, then regenerate the bindings and rebuild the native library together.
• moq-relay: none; no new flag.

Alternatives

• No wire change, leaving applications to publish a track: rejected by the maintainer.
• QUIC's lifetime min_rtt: it never rises after a path change. Rejected by the maintainer.
• Smoothed RTT, raw or EWMA: floods ROUTE_UPDATE under bufferbloat (see the sizing).
• RTT + 1 with 0 as unknown: this would save the Flags rename, but it is a sentinel, which the quest rules out.
• One sampler per session in the session supervisor: it would need a new handle from the supervisor to every announce stream. Sampling in the announce stream that adds the value keeps it in one place, and costs nothing for a peer that sends no routes.

Choices made without asking

• Whole milliseconds, rounded up, so a sub-millisecond link reads 1 ms and a sum never undercounts a hop. This is the PROBE RTT unit.
• RouteInfo::rtt() is the whole path, None while any link (this session's included) is unmeasured, rather than also exposing the advertised sum alone. The earlier MinRtt { upstream, link } split existed for a browser that can't measure its first hop; that is JS-only, and Rust and the bindings always measure once the transport reports an RTT.
• A relay forwarding to lite-06 or moq-transport peers ignores RTT changes. The lite-06 publisher already skips an update whose hops and cost are unchanged.
• Review fix: one read of no RTT no longer stops the sampler for the session (pullfrog and the OpenAI review both flagged it), since qmux reports none until its first ping returns. It keeps reading through 30 reads of none, then stops, so a transport that never measures (the mock transports in the sim::idle mesh tests) doesn't hold a timer forever. a_late_rtt_is_still_read and a_window_without_rtt_stops_reading cover it.
• Review fix (CodeRabbit): claims served when the peer reports Synced, before the stream's first poll, now carry the RTT. outputs() and poll() start sampling through one helper that reads at once; the_first_claims_served_carry_the_rtt covers it and fails without the fix. The cluster doc also says a route this node serves itself has no RTT.

Decisions

• Maintainer, 2026-11-10: land the Rust, draft, and bindings change first (option 1). moq-dev/moq#8443 adopts the Flags byte and RTT field before it lands. The quest stays open for the JS rtt read.
• Maintainer, 2026-11-10: the advertised sum covers every link but the current one. The receiving peer already knows that link's RTT, so leaving it out saves bytes and avoids negative values. A node advertises the sum it received plus the RTT of the link it received the route on, never the link it is sending over. The endpoint adds its own first hop.
• Maintainer, 2026-11-10: ✅ name it rtt (rejected: origin::MinRtt). RouteInfo::rtt() returns a plain Option<Duration>, the MinRtt type is gone, and the bindings and the draft's field follow (RTT (i)).
• Maintainer, 2026-11-10: ✅ no withholding (rejected: --cluster-withhold-min-rtt / origin::Config::withhold_min_rtt). The value is informational only for now, so every node reports it.

Validation

• After merging origin/main at 529fa6a: just check passed (its Rust module rerun after a rustfmt fix: 12958 tests passed), and just test interop --all passed (the JS lite-07 lanes stay skipped until the JS route codec lands).

Follow-ups

• None beyond the rewritten quest (the JS read), which /quest-merge doesn't need to plan.

Models

Size: M
Implementer: Claude Code, claude-opus-5-5, high effort
Implementer: Claude Code, claude-opus-5-5, low effort (iterate, S)
Implementer: Claude Code, claude-opus-5-5, medium effort (iterate, S)

Sizing simulation (route_latency_sim.py)

"""Size a lite-07 ROUTE latency sum and count the ROUTE_UPDATEs it costs.

Part 1 encodes ROUTE_START and ROUTE_UPDATE with the lite-07 leading-ones varint
(rs/moq-net/src/coding/varint.rs) with and without a Latency (i) field in ms.

Part 2 simulates link RTT under bufferbloat (sawtooth queues that build until a
drop), RFC 9002 smoothed RTT per ACK, and three report filters with the same
quantization (1 ms) and hysteresis band (re-advertise only when the filtered RTT
leaves max(2 ms, 1/8 of the advertised value)):

  raw     srtt checked on every ACK
  ewma    srtt read at 1 Hz into an EWMA with alpha 1/8
  median  srtt read at 1 Hz, median of the last W reads

Then it runs a chain of R relays, each link with its own trace, one link taking
a real RTT shift, and counts every ROUTE_UPDATE each relay sends downstream.
"""

import random
import statistics
import sys

# ---------------------------------------------------------------- part 1: size


def varint_len(v: int) -> int:
    for bits, n in ((7, 1), (14, 2), (21, 3), (28, 4), (35, 5), (42, 6), (56, 8)):
        if v < 1 << bits:
            return n
    return 9


def msg_len(type_: int, fields: list[int], trailing_bytes: int) -> int:
    body = sum(varint_len(f) for f in fields) + trailing_bytes
    return varint_len(type_) + varint_len(body) + body


def sizes():
    node_id = (1 << 63) - 12345  # a random 63-bit Node ID
    cases = [
        # (label, route id, seqno, metric)
        ("small: route id 5, seqno 3, metric 2", 5, 3, 2),
        ("busy relay: route id 900, seqno 20000, metric 40", 900, 20000, 40),
    ]
    print("## Encoded size (bytes), lite-07 leading-ones varint")
    print()
    print("| message | case | today | +latency 0-127 ms | +latency 128-16383 ms |")
    print("|---|---|---|---|---|")
    for label, rid, seq, met in cases:
        start = msg_len(0x6, [node_id, seq, met], 1)
        update = msg_len(0x7, [rid, seq, met], 1)
        for name, base, fields in (
            ("ROUTE_START", start, [node_id, seq, met]),
            ("ROUTE_UPDATE", update, [rid, seq, met]),
        ):
            typ = 0x6 if name == "ROUTE_START" else 0x7
            one = msg_len(typ, fields + [100], 1)
            two = msg_len(typ, fields + [300], 1)
            print(f"| {name} | {label} | {base} | {one} (+{one - base}) | {two} (+{two - base}) |")
    print()
    print("Unknown latency costs 0 bytes: a bit in the existing Down Only byte says the field is present.")
    print()


# ------------------------------------------------------------- part 2: traces

ACK_HZ = 100  # RTT samples per second on a link carrying media
SECS = 3600


def trace(rng: random.Random, base_ms: float, steps: list[tuple[int, float]], standing: list[tuple[int, int, float]]):
    """Per-second srtt reads (ms) and per-ACK srtt (ms) for one link."""
    srtt = None
    per_ack = []
    per_sec = []
    # Bufferbloat: an episode every ~60 s on average, the queue building linearly to
    # 20-80 ms over 1-8 s, then a drop empties it.
    episodes = []
    t = rng.expovariate(1 / 60)
    while t < SECS:
        episodes.append((t, rng.uniform(1, 8), rng.uniform(20, 80)))
        t += rng.expovariate(1 / 60)
    ep = 0
    base = base_ms
    step_i = 0
    for i in range(SECS * ACK_HZ):
        now = i / ACK_HZ
        while step_i < len(steps) and now >= steps[step_i][0]:
            base = steps[step_i][1]
            step_i += 1
        while ep < len(episodes) and now > episodes[ep][0] + episodes[ep][1]:
            ep += 1
        queue = 0.0
        if ep < len(episodes) and now >= episodes[ep][0]:
            start, dur, peak = episodes[ep]
            queue = peak * (now - start) / dur
        for s, e, q in standing:
            if s <= now < e:
                queue += q
        # ACK-delay and scheduling jitter, plus a rare 20 ms spike (Wi-Fi retry, delayed ACK).
        sample = base + queue + rng.expovariate(1 / 2.0) + (20.0 if rng.random() < 0.01 else 0.0)
        srtt = sample if srtt is None else srtt * 7 / 8 + sample / 8
        per_ack.append(srtt)
        if i % ACK_HZ == 0:
            per_sec.append(srtt)
    return per_ack, per_sec


BAND = (2.0, 8)  # (floor ms, divisor): leave the band at max(floor, adv / divisor)


def band(adv: int) -> float:
    return max(BAND[0], adv / BAND[1])


def hysteresis(values):
    """The advertised (quantized) value after each input, and the change count."""
    adv = None
    out = []
    changes = 0
    for v in values:
        if adv is None:
            adv = round(v)
        elif abs(v - adv) > band(adv):
            adv = round(v)
            changes += 1
        out.append(adv)
    return out, changes


def filt_raw(per_ack, per_sec):
    out, changes = hysteresis(per_ack)
    return out[::ACK_HZ], changes


def filt_ewma(per_ack, per_sec):
    e = None
    vals = []
    for s in per_sec:
        e = s if e is None else e * 7 / 8 + s / 8
        vals.append(e)
    return hysteresis(vals)


def filt_window(stat, window):
    def f(per_ack, per_sec):
        vals = [stat(per_sec[max(0, i - window + 1) : i + 1]) for i in range(len(per_sec))]
        return hysteresis(vals)

    return f


FILTERS = {
    "raw (every ACK)": filt_raw,
    "ewma (1 Hz, 1/8)": filt_ewma,
    "median 20 s": filt_window(statistics.median, 20),
    "median 60 s": filt_window(statistics.median, 60),
    "min 10 s": filt_window(min, 10),
    "min 30 s": filt_window(min, 30),
}
CHAIN_FILTERS = ("median 60 s", "min 10 s", "min 30 s")

SCENARIOS = {
    # name: (base, steps, standing queues, real shifts)
    "jitter only": (30.0, [], [], 0),
    "two real shifts (30->55 ms at 20 min, back at 40 min)": (30.0, [(1200, 55.0), (2400, 30.0)], [], 2),
    "standing queue +40 ms for 60 s": (30.0, [], [(1200, 1260, 40.0)], 2),
    "standing queue +40 ms for 8 s": (30.0, [], [(1200, 1208, 40.0)], 0),
}


def links(seeds: int):
    print("## Changes per link per hour (mean over seeds, max in parentheses)")
    print()
    print("| scenario | real shifts | " + " | ".join(FILTERS) + " |")
    print("|---|---|" + "---|" * len(FILTERS))
    for name, (base, steps, standing, real) in SCENARIOS.items():
        counts = {f: [] for f in FILTERS}
        for seed in range(seeds):
            per_ack, per_sec = trace(random.Random(seed), base, steps, standing)
            for fname, f in FILTERS.items():
                counts[fname].append(f(per_ack, per_sec)[1])
        cells = [f"{statistics.mean(c):.1f} ({max(c)})" for c in counts.values()]
        print(f"| {name} | {real} | " + " | ".join(cells) + " |")
    print()


def chain(relays: int, seeds: int, fname: str):
    """Relay i receives the route on link i (origin side) and advertises
    sum_i = sum_{i-1} + link_i downstream; the origin advertises 0. A shift on link k
    re-advertises at relays k..R. Returns ROUTE_UPDATEs over the hour."""
    f = FILTERS[fname]
    totals_quiet = []
    totals_shift = {}
    errors = []
    for seed in range(seeds):
        # Each link gets its own noise seed and base RTT; its shifted twin reuses both,
        # so the difference is the shift alone.
        bases = [random.Random(seed * 100 + i).uniform(5, 40) for i in range(relays)]
        quiet = [f(*trace(random.Random(seed * 100 + i), bases[i], [], []))[0] for i in range(relays)]
        totals_quiet.append(count_updates(quiet))
        for k in (0, relays - 1):
            step = [(1200, bases[k] + 25.0)]
            shifted = f(*trace(random.Random(seed * 100 + k), bases[k], step, []))[0]
            lk = quiet[:k] + [shifted] + quiet[k + 1 :]
            totals_shift.setdefault(k, []).append(count_updates(lk) - totals_quiet[-1])
    return totals_quiet, totals_shift


def count_updates(link_values):
    """Propagate per second, origin first; a relay sends one ROUTE_UPDATE whenever its
    advertised sum changes. Simultaneous changes collapse within a tick, so this is
    checked against the per-link sum."""
    relays = len(link_values)
    sums_prev = [None] * relays
    updates = 0
    for t in range(SECS):
        upstream = 0
        for i in range(relays):
            s = upstream + link_values[i][t]
            if sums_prev[i] is not None and s != sums_prev[i]:
                updates += 1
            sums_prev[i] = s
            upstream = s
    return updates


def chains(seeds: int):
    print("## Chain of R relays: ROUTE_UPDATEs per origin per hour")
    print()
    print("Each relay advertises to one downstream peer. 'shift' is the extra updates one real +25 ms shift")
    print("on link k causes, over the jitter baseline; the bound is R - k + 1 (one per downstream relay).")
    print()
    print("| filter | R | jitter baseline (mean, max) | shift on link 1 (mean, max) | shift on link R (mean, max) |")
    print("|---|---|---|---|---|")
    for fname in CHAIN_FILTERS:
        for relays in (1, 2, 4, 8):
            quiet, shift = chain(relays, seeds, fname)
            first, last = shift[0], shift[relays - 1]
            print(
                f"| {fname} | {relays} | {statistics.mean(quiet):.1f}, {max(quiet)} "
                f"| {statistics.mean(first):.1f}, {max(first)} | {statistics.mean(last):.1f}, {max(last)} |"
            )
    print()


if __name__ == "__main__":
    seeds = int(sys.argv[1]) if len(sys.argv) > 1 else 10
    sizes()
    for b in ((2.0, 8), (5.0, 4)):
        BAND = b
        print(f"# Band max({b[0]:g} ms, adv/{b[1]})")
        print()
        links(seeds)
        chains(max(3, seeds // 2))

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• Reviewer: Codex, gpt-6.1-sol, medium effort
• Session: 01a1ca32-5057-78d3-818b-57e2b5355e8b, round 1
• Head: 6cdeb93
• Base: origin/main at 182b06e
• Score: 8/10, The implementation appears consistent with its routing and wire semantics, with no actionable defects identified, but builds and tests were not run as instructed.
• Findings: none
• Not re-reviewed: 11e4198 changes only doc/bin/relay/cluster.md, saying the route RTT ends at the origin node rather than the publisher (CodeRabbit, low severity, fixed).

(Written by Claude Opus 5.5 with medium effort)

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Automated review by review (OpenAI)

Reviewed commit d99d0e6.

[P2] Keep sampling when the first RTT measurement is unavailable — rs/moq-net/src/lite/subscriber/routed.rs:138–140. Initial None permanently disables read_rtt, but supported QMUX transports can acquire an RTT later: Unix sockets pass no socket metrics (rs/qmux/src/uds.rs:30–32), and the mux timer initializes RTT to None and populates it after a QX_PING response. An announce stream opened before that first probe therefore never learns its link RTT; local totals and downstream advertised sums remain unknown even after valid transport measurements arrive. Retry while routes exist, or distinguish unsupported metrics from a measurement that is not available yet. Add a None-to-Some regression test.

Overall direction: wire encoding, route metadata propagation, withholding, and bindings are coherent, and RTT remains separate from route selection. Address the sampler lifecycle issue before landing.

Verification limits: GitHub-only static review of the changes and relevant transport paths. No builds, runtime tests, or interop runs independently executed.

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Important

One behavior fix before merge: the link RTT sampler treats a transport's first None read as permanent, which loses the link's min RTT for the life of a qmux session.

Reviewed changes

Read the full diff at d99d0e6 (29 files) against main, and followed the route layer, the announce codec, the origin table, and the FFI aliases into their callers.

• Wire — ROUTE_START/ROUTE_UPDATE replace Down Only (8) with Flags (8) (0x1 down-only, 0x2 a Min RTT follows), reject unknown bits and a flagged-but-absent field, and encode a sum past the field's range as absent rather than erroring. Bytes without 0x2 are unchanged, and routes only encode on lite-07+.
• Sampler — route::LinkRtt reports the lowest of 30 once-a-second smoothed-RTT reads, rounded up, re-reported only past max(5 ms, 25%).
• Route layer — Advert::min_rtt, per-stream Peer::min_rtt, Router::min_rtt/through/route_min_rtt, withhold, and Served::min_rtt, so a shift sends one ROUTE_UPDATE per origin per downstream stream and re-serves the claims with an updated RouteInfo.
• Read API and bindings — origin::MinRtt with total(), RouteInfo::min_rtt(), Config::withhold_min_rtt, the relay's --cluster-withhold-min-rtt, and MoqMinRtt across the aliases with the Dart binding regenerated.
• Docs — the draft's routing and ROUTE sections plus changelog, the relay docs, and the quest rewritten as the remaining js/net work.

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The change adds optional RTT metadata to lite-07 route messages. Relays accumulate link RTT measurements and update route advertisements when reported values change. The route API and Rust and Dart bindings expose RTT, while documentation describes its availability and informational role. The codec uses flags to indicate down-only status and RTT presence. Tests cover encoding, RTT sampling and propagation, route selection, and an integration route with a positive RTT.

Merge Risk: Minimal · up to 11e41

This change adds an informational RTT field to lite-07 route messages and exposes it through the bindings. No actionable merge-blocking risk remains in the reviewed changes. The JS codec must accept the new flag before it lands, and that work is tracked separately.

Pre-merge checks: 5

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• quest/m2/lite07-finalize.md
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• rs/moq-ffi/src/origin.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/fuzz.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/lite/announce.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/lite/subscriber.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/lite/subscriber/routed.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/model/mod.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/model/origin.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/route/mod.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/route/node.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/route/rtt.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/route/tests/min_rtt.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/route/tests/mod.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/route/tests/routing.rs
• rs/moq-relay/src/cluster.rs
• rs/moq-relay/src/settings.rs
• rs/moq-tokio/tests/integration/broadcast.rs
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Reviewed commit 3fe08a6 against d99d0e6 and the current base.

The previous P2's immediate-stop behavior is fixed: an initial unavailable RTT now retries, with a None-to-Some regression test. Sampling also resets when the peer has no routes, so resuming starts a fresh window. Retries intentionally stop after 30 consecutive missing measurements; this is not indefinite recovery from an arbitrarily late first measurement.

No new actionable findings in the incremental changes. The plain optional rtt API and binding conversions consistently expose the whole-path sum, withholding has been removed, and RTT remains outside route ranking. Overall direction: the changes address the reported sampler lifecycle problem; the documented JS codec dependency still matters when landing this unpublished wire change.

Verification limits: GitHub-only static review of the incremental changes, current codec, routing/metadata propagation, sampler tests and binding diffs. No builds, tests or interoperability runs executed; reported validation was not independently reproduced. GitHub currently reports merge conflicts.

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Review comments at @doc/bin/relay/cluster.md:
- Around line 227-228: Update the `RouteInfo::rtt` documentation to state that
local-origin routes have no RTT, independently of missing link measurements.
Preserve the existing explanation of absent RTT values for routes with
unmeasured links.

Review comments at @rs/moq-net/src/lite/subscriber/routed.rs:
- Around line 510-539: Update the Routed polling and Synced output-draining flow
so the initial RTT sample is attempted before any queued claim can serve its
first Start, including when Synced drains outputs before Routed::poll. Preserve
None when the required RTT measurement is unavailable.

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• rs/moq-ffi/src/origin.rs
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• rs/moq-net/src/lite/announce.rs
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• rs/moq-net/src/lite/subscriber/routed.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/model/origin.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/route/mod.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/route/node.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/route/rtt.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/route/tests/mod.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/route/tests/routing.rs
• rs/moq-net/src/route/tests/rtt.rs
• rs/moq-tokio/tests/integration/broadcast.rs
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Re-reviewed the delta since the prior pullfrog review: a single merge of origin/main into quest/m2/route-latency, with no change to the PR's own code.

• Merged origin/main (f580c52); the only conflicted file was quest/m2/lite07-finalize.md, where the resolved list now tracks route latency as the remaining js/net read.
• Verified the PR's hunks are unchanged by the merge per the range-diff, and that main's generated-binding changes combined cleanly: Dart keeps MoqRouteInfo.rtt alongside the renumbered MoqProtocolKind, and the Go, Kotlin, and Swift aliases still expose rtt.
• Re-confirmed the prior finding is fixed: the link RTT sampler keeps reading through 30 consecutive None measurements instead of stopping at the first, and a_late_rtt_is_still_read covers None-then-Some. That thread is resolved.

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✅ No new issues found.

Reviewed changes

No commits landed since the prior Pullfrog review: quest/m2/route-latency is still at f580c52, the exact tree that review approved. This run re-checked the head and the automated comments that landed around it.

• Confirmed the head, the main merge, and the resolved quest/m2/lite07-finalize.md conflict are unchanged.
• Re-read the two CodeRabbit findings posted on this head and found neither needs a change: the first Start can briefly serve rtt: None before Routed::poll takes its first sample, but that sample arrives on a zero deadline and Router::rtt re-serves every claim of the identity, drained in the same poll's output loop; the local-origin case its doc note asks for is already documented on RouteInfo::rtt.
• The prior sampler thread stays resolved: LinkRtt keeps reading through 30 consecutive None reads and a_late_rtt_is_still_read covers None-then-Some.

ℹ️ The Impact section predates the withholding removal

The body still lists moq-net as additive and moq-relay as unchanged, but c2468ba61 removes origin::MinRtt, origin::Config::withhold_min_rtt, RouteInfo::min_rtt(), MoqMinRtt across the bindings, and the relay's --cluster-withhold-min-rtt / MOQ_CLUSTER_WITHHOLD_MIN_RTT / cluster.withhold_min_rtt surface. AGENTS.md requires a breaking PR's migration note in its Impact section, and the release cut copies that section into MIGRATE.md; as written, an operator upgrading past this PR gets no note that the old flag now fails argument parsing.

Technical details

# Impact section does not mention the removals in `c2468ba61`

## Affected sites
- PR body `## Impact` — `- **moq-net (additive):** origin::RouteInfo::rtt()` and `- **moq-relay:** none; no new flag.`
- `rs/moq-net/src/model/origin.rs` — `origin::MinRtt` and `origin::Config::withhold_min_rtt` are gone.
- `rs/moq-net/src/model/origin.rs` — `RouteInfo::min_rtt()` is gone, replaced by `rtt()`.
- `rs/moq-ffi/src/origin.rs`, `go/wrapper/types.go`, `kt/.../Aliases.kt`, `swift/Sources/Moq/Aliases.swift`, `dart/moq/lib/src/aliases.dart` — `MoqMinRtt` / `RouteInfo.min_rtt` are gone.
- `rs/moq-relay/src/cluster.rs`, `rs/moq-relay/src/settings.rs`, `doc/bin/relay/*.md` — `--cluster-withhold-min-rtt`, `MOQ_CLUSTER_WITHHOLD_MIN_RTT`, and `cluster.withhold_min_rtt` are removed.

## Required outcome
- The Impact section's `moq-net`, bindings, and `moq-relay` entries name those removals and how to migrate (drop `withhold_min_rtt`, read `RouteInfo::rtt()`, delete the relay flag/environment variable), so the release cut can write the migration note.

## Open questions for the human
- Should the relay flag stay as a deprecated no-op (AGENTS.md's hidden-arg pattern) instead of disappearing outright, given a rolling cluster upgrade may still pass it?

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Review comments at @doc/bin/relay/cluster.md:
- Around line 226-227: Update the RTT description near RouteInfo::rtt to say
that it measures round-trip time to the route’s origin node, not to the
publisher. Preserve the surrounding explanation of the value and its absence.

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✅ No new issues found.

Reviewed changes

Re-reviewed the delta since the prior f580c52 review: e71cb1fbf (sample the link's RTT before the first claims, plus a cluster doc note) and 6cdeb9360 (rustfmt).

• Routed::outputs now calls sample before draining try_output, so the Synced arm's routed.outputs (which runs before the first poll) reads the link and re-serves the claims with the RTT. Routed::poll calls the same sample at the top, so the (routes, sampling) state machine is unchanged and only the first transition reads.
• read_link is the extracted single-read body; poll's while loop calls it on each due timer, so timer-driven and first-claim reads are identical.
• The the_first_claims_served_carry_the_rtt regression test passes: routed.outputs with RouteStart { rtt: 5 } and SinkStats::rtt(10) serves Some(15) on the first claim. The full routed suite (12) and the moq-net lib suite (3177 passed, 13 ignored) pass, and rustfmt --check is clean.
• The cluster doc now says a route this node serves itself has no RTT, matching the RouteInfo::rtt doc.

Minor doc note

CodeRabbit's 5857571989 asks for the "round trip to a publisher" wording in doc/bin/relay/cluster.md:226 to say "the route's origin node". The RouteInfo::rtt doc says "the round trip to the route's origin node", and the route's origin is the node that serves the broadcast, so the wording is accurate for a publisher but not for a relay that serves the broadcast. It's a doc nit, not a code defect.

Outstanding from the prior review

The Impact section is still stale: moq-net is listed as additive and moq-relay as unchanged, but c2468ba61 removed origin::MinRtt, Config::withhold_min_rtt, RouteInfo::min_rtt(), MoqMinRtt across the bindings, and the relay's --cluster-withhold-min-rtt / MOQ_CLUSTER_WITHHOLD_MIN_RTT / cluster.withhold_min_rtt surface. AGENTS.md requires a breaking PR's migration note in its Impact section, so the release cut can write it into MIGRATE.md.

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