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The maintainer re-reviewed the 2026-10-22 TS root-cause decisions (moq-dev/moq#6334). The diagnosis holds: DTS is reconstructed from each exporter's history, and import state has no owner. The re-plan widens and sharpens the decode-time fix.

  • decode-order [L] -> [XL]. One DecodeClock serves TS, MKV and FLV (MKV also used the history-dependent pop; FLV authored PTS - jitter, which passes the PTS on B-frames). The counted path becomes DecodeClock::new(depth, delay) + pop(flush), and pop_counted goes away. A new optional Hang video field reorder (frames) declares the depth. Absent means 0, so streams without B-frames pay no decode delay. Producers that reorder must set it, and exporters refuse deeper reordering.
  • export-reorder (release audit) deleted, folded into decode-order. Holding frames by a declared depth bounds retention whatever the timestamps do. decode-order now blocks the release-audit epic in its place.
  • shared-parser: re-confirmed to land before the open stream-routes (moq-dev/moq#6252) and PAT (moq-dev/moq#6301) drafts, which rebase onto it.

Public API / wire: none in this PR. decode-order will add the reorder catalog field, and its absent meaning is a breaking change for producers that reorder.

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Goal: TS stops being patched one symptom at a time; decode time and import state each get one owner shared by every exporter or program, before more support-table rows.

  • ✅ Yes
  • Narrower
  • Broader

DTS scope:

  • ✅ TS, MKV, FLV
  • TS and FLV only
  • TS only

Reorder constant source:

  • ✅ Catalog field + SPS
  • SPS only

Ordering vs the open drafts:

  • ✅ Parser first
  • Drafts first
  • Close the drafts

Field unit:

  • ✅ Frames
  • Time

Importer that doesn't know the depth up front:

  • ✅ Leave it absent (maintainer: only if it adds no latency without B-frames; prefers absent = 0)
  • Measure, then re-publish

Reopen other audit decisions:

  • ✅ None
  • State bound
  • Access units
  • PMT/muxRate

Absent reorder means:

  • ✅ 0, refuse if violated
  • Unknown, use MaxDpbFrames
  • Unknown, infer from profile

Field name:

  • ✅ reorder
  • reorderFrames
  • maxReorder

Overlap with release-audit export-reorder:

  • ✅ Fold it in, gate the cut on decode-order
  • Stopgap first
  • Fold in, don't gate

DTS delay (from review: catalog framerate may change in place):

  • ✅ Shift by slots: the nth frame decodes at the group's (n - reorder)th presentation slot
  • Freeze the rate
  • SPS rate only

Review fixes also bound reorder by the codec level's MaxDpbFrames and add a moq-mux migration entry.

The maintainer also called pop_counted a confusing name; the plan replaces it with a constructor plus pop(flush).

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The decode-order proposal now defines DTS using a declared reorder depth for TS, MKV, and FLV. It describes a shared DecodeClock, producer and importer requirements, exporter validation, and expanded tests. The release-audit documents now point to this work. The shared-parser plan records related rebase and accounting updates.

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This is a documentation-only change. The importer fallback for reorder depth should define the complete initial reorder window before implementation relies on it, but the issue is bounded and does not affect any running code.

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- An exporter that reads a frame reordered deeper than its rendition's
`reorder` refuses the export, never authors an invalid DTS. This bounds the
clock's held frames by the declared depth whatever the timestamps do, which
replaces the release audit's export-reorder quest: flat or backward PTS can
no longer hold frames without bound or drain quadratically.

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P1 Badge Cap the declared reorder depth before buffering

When a hostile publisher supplies an extremely large reorder, retaining up to the declared depth still allows it to make each exporter hold an arbitrary number of frame payloads. The plan replaces the release-audit resource-bound quest without defining any schema/codec maximum or capacity-backed admission check for this network-provided value, so the claimed memory bound is not operationally finite; validate the depth before constructing the clock or tie retention to owned capacity.

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Agreed. Fixed: a reorder above the codec level's MaxDpbFrames (at most 16) refuses, as does a nonzero reorder on a codec that never reorders, so the held frames are bounded by the codec, not by the peer's value.

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- The depth is a new optional `reorder` field on the Hang video rendition:
the most frames that can precede a frame in decode order and follow it in
presentation, the unit of H.264 `max_num_reorder_frames` and HEVC
`sps_max_num_reorder_pics`. The delay is `reorder` times the frame period
(the SPS's fixed rate, else the catalog `framerate`).

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P1 Badge Avoid deriving fixed DTS delay from mutable framerate

When the SPS has no fixed rate, this derives the constructor's supposedly lifetime-fixed delay from catalog framerate, but rs/hang/src/catalog/video/mod.rs:289-291 defines that value as a maximum and drafts/draft-lcurley-moq-hang.md:1203 explicitly permits it to update in place. Exporters joining before and after such an update can therefore construct clocks with different delays and author different DTS for the same later groups, defeating the quest's central determinism goal; either make the rate/delay immutable identity or remove this mutable input from DTS derivation.

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Agreed. The maintainer chose to drop the time delay entirely: the nth frame of a group decodes at the group's (n - reorder)th presentation slot, and the first reorder frames extrapolate at the group's own slot spacing. No framerate input remains; a test covers a framerate change mid-rendition.

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authors DTS). Public API and wire: an optional catalog field whose absence
now means "never reorders", a breaking change for any producer that reorders
without it; add a `MIGRATE.md` entry for `hang` and `@moq/hang`.

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P2 Badge Add moq-mux to the migration plan

The migration work names only hang and @moq/hang, although published moq-mux users also receive a breaking behavior change: a B-frame stream that previously exported without the new catalog field will now be interpreted as reorder = 0 and refused. Add the required rs/moq-mux/MIGRATE.md guidance so direct users know they must populate the new field.

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Agreed. Fixed: the migration entry now covers moq-mux too.

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- DTS shifts by slots, not by a time: the nth frame of a group decodes at the
group's (n - `reorder`)th presentation slot, which no frame still to come
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P1 Badge Define how the initial negative DTS is represented

When the first group starts at the common timestamp of zero and declares a nonzero reorder, extrapolating its first decode slots below the keyframe produces negative DTS values. The shared clock and FLV tag timestamps currently use unsigned values, so this cannot be emitted without either saturating multiple frames to zero, shifting DTS after PTS, or rebasing the complete audio/video timeline. Specify that rebasing or another valid representation before making this the common TS/MKV/FLV algorithm.

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Agreed. The clock now works in signed ticks and each exporter maps them to its wire: TS wraps modulo 2^33, MKV writes no DTS and only schedules by it, and FLV rebases its whole audio and video timeline at its first DTS. Never saturate or push a DTS past its PTS. A test covers a group starting at zero.

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Rust: `rs/hang` catalog; `rs/moq-mux` decode clock, TS/MKV/FLV export, and
the TS, FLV and fMP4 importers; `rs/moq-video` encoders. JS: `js/hang`
catalog, `js/publish`. Draft: `drafts/draft-lcurley-moq-hang.md` (the field

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P1 Badge Include the MKV importer in reorder publication

Add rs/moq-mux's MKV importer to the producer work: it supports H.264/H.265 and forwards blocks in file order with their presentation timestamps, so an MKV containing B-frames can produce the reordered Hang stream that this new field governs. As scoped here, only TS, FLV, and fMP4 importers populate reorder; an MKV-imported rendition therefore leaves it absent and its next TS/MKV/FLV export is required to refuse the reordered frames.

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Agreed. The MKV importer is now a producer: with no decode offsets in MKV, it takes the SPS's declared depth, else the level's MaxDpbFrames.

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- DTS shifts by slots, not by a time: the nth frame of a group decodes at the
group's (n - `reorder`)th presentation slot, which no frame still to come
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P1 Badge Define initial slot spacing without future frames

For a valid stream whose early reference pictures jump over several presentation slots, the bounded clock cannot know the spacing used to extrapolate these initial DTS values. The existing references_far_apart_keep_their_slots fixture in rs/moq-mux/src/container/decode.rs demonstrates this with the conforming depth-2 order 0, 6, 10, 1, ...: when the first frame must be released after reading only the declared lookahead, slots 1 through 5 have not arrived, so the observed gaps are not the group's actual slot spacing. A truncated group may provide no interval at all. Consequently this rule either requires buffering beyond reorder or produces an undefined/wrong initial DTS; specify an independently available spacing or a deterministic fallback that preserves the retention bound.

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Agreed. A group's first reorder frames now step one 90 kHz tick apart up to the keyframe's slot. That needs no spacing, keeps DTS increasing within and across groups without history, holds no frame past reorder, and only relaxes those frames' delivery deadlines; from frame reorder on, each DTS is the real (n - reorder)th slot.

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#6390 re-plans decode order and folds export reorder itself, and #5878
kept the QUIC epic for connection-blocked writers, so this audit backs out
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Summary

Re-planned the TS decode-time foundation with the maintainer:

  • decode-order [XL]: one DecodeClock::new(reorder) + pop(flush) for TS, MKV and FLV, replacing the history-dependent pop, pop_counted, and FLV's PTS - jitter. DTS shifts by presentation slots: frame n decodes at the group's (n - reorder)th slot, and the first reorder frames step one tick apart up to the keyframe. No framerate input; signed ticks are mapped per wire (TS wraps, MKV schedules only, FLV rebases).
  • New Hang video field reorder (frames). Absent means 0. Producers that reorder set it (encoders; TS/FLV/fMP4/MKV importers from the SPS, source offsets, else MaxDpbFrames). Exporters refuse deeper reordering, and a reorder above the level's MaxDpbFrames.
  • export-reorder folded into decode-order, which now blocks the release-audit epic.
  • shared-parser lands before the stream-routes and PAT drafts.

Review fixes: slot shift instead of a framerate-derived delay, a level bound on reorder, the moq-mux migration entry, signed DTS per wire, the MKV importer, exact reorder detection, and one-tick initial steps. Rejected: sampling a full initial window before publishing.

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